Transvox - US Politics and the Rise of VP Harris and Hope!

[00:00:00] So hello, hello Jenny. It is time, it's time again. It's time, it's time, it's podcast time. And last week, last week was our very first chat with a transbud and how fascinating was that I, I winceed all away through the surgery aspects. And I thought it was fascinating

[00:00:30] when he said that, you know, trans hormones, you know, fantastic, what trans men but their surgery is awful. Where's the other way around with the trans women? You know, we'd also reduce them to be better because the taking things away rather than what

[00:00:45] the trans women. This is probably simpler. But you know, I'm not saying it's easy thing for the, I guess so. I'm just standing there. It was fascinating, listen to and there's, there's so few people practicing surgery for trans males in this country

[00:01:03] or bottom surgery particularly. These almost impossible to access really is not. This is just not any any resource. I think they'll, one or two surgeons of the sort of, we're doing it. I've heard that one had stopped doing it. And it was interesting.

[00:01:19] It was interesting because it's interesting because it's a, you know, we don't give, you know, the whole community. We need to make sure being you were from a particular section of the community. Yes. I, um, two old days, but, you know, there was other parts of the

[00:01:34] community is written to find all those youngsters. And then and the course haven't spent time talking to that, that's what we're talking about. Another one rocks along talking about gender surgery. And it was a really fascinating conversation and we're access

[00:01:51] to his book absolutely fascinating. Talk about all sorts of, which, whichever gender whichever we around, you know, really good practical way to looking at stuff. And again, I spent my eyes, spent the time with my eyes watering and tension my legs, you know,

[00:02:09] wondering when the, the day should come. There's a challenge, isn't it? I mean, I'd love to have, I'd love to, in a sense, be born at the moment because actually there are opportunities for what we're going to get on job opportunities for trans people

[00:02:22] in a minute. But certainly the surgical advances are quite astonishing, on the, in terms of what's happening. Oh, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I mean, that's right. Yeah, has to be, has to be positive here. Well, and so in an era of interesting exciting

[00:02:38] then, I thought we'd talk about American politics because old, uncaljo has stepped down. He's been dragged away from the, seemingly seemingly, seemingly, so this little, literally being in, you know, sort of scratching the way down the walls

[00:02:59] as he was dragged away. And then I mean, it's really been quite fascinating to rise up, Kamala Harris. Yeah, I mean, we are both a bit obsessed with American politics. But I think in some respects, as a community, we get invested because a lot of what

[00:03:16] happens in America, particularly towards trans people, you start to see reflected over here and it did something, I feel more invested in than there was 15 years ago. I guess that marks the world. But yes, I mean, you know, really interesting that, you know,

[00:03:32] it seemed obvious to the point that he was going to stick down at some point. And it's been remarkable in a very short, space of time that Kamala Harris is, she was obviously going to be the obvious choice, but has been, I think, almost certainly

[00:03:48] has got the nomination now, I think, I think that's the way that's been indicated. That's so there's not really a question over her, her who running and it seems to have transformed everything, you know? Oh, really does.

[00:04:01] And, you know, it's interesting, I think it was time for Joe Biden to step back and, you know, those parts of a guest Joe Biden's politics are my critic size, but one thing I'd always say is, it's from where I said anyway, he seemed to me

[00:04:19] not afraid to be overtly positive towards trans people. That he would make declarations on transdaer civilizability. Apple politicians don't do that. You know, he appointed trans people to his cabinet and he was always outspoken and never heard whether in the past

[00:04:34] his vote in record may not be as, because I think somebody said that maybe in the past he said things what certainly over this term. And I remember a thinking mentioned trans people in his first speech is

[00:04:47] when he was elected and it filled me with joy to see somebody being prepared to do that and we don't see that positive deal over here. So that part of that, I'm sad to see that he's gone, I hope it's with

[00:05:02] some dignity in the end rather than being dragged down. It just was a little bit that way. So one of the things is quite interesting because they talk about this state of having a lame duck president, but apparently

[00:05:14] presidents in his situation have the ability to do some quite radical stuff and it's a talk that Biden's going to reform the Supreme Court. That'd be really interesting if he could. Well, I mean, all we can do, all we can really do though is as

[00:05:33] my understanding is effectively appoint more enough new Supreme Court not one is because it's not into the constitution. I think they can do that and if, because that's the big problem in America on top of the fact that we've got Donald Trump who is, you know,

[00:05:50] a fascist in all his behavior in utterances as far as I'm concerned. And now it seems extraordinary language for all those traits of that. And somebody that is an existential threat to our people, if you want to talk about that way as well as the world.

[00:06:07] Apart from that, his, a certain room, poor that's made some absolutely crazy decisions recently and will threaten LGBT-acupilist rights at some point if it doesn't change, they're already threatened with a 40 rollback women's rights. And you know, and I think one of the recent,

[00:06:25] I mean, they've recently said pretty much that the president has pretty much immunity in most aspects of criminal law receives as well. And they can call it, because he's virtually the case, under the call and official act. Yeah. So Joe Biden could literally,

[00:06:40] seems to me, and President Donald Trump illegally, and so it's an official act. You know, so it's not a very situation. I have a CIA taken them. Well, I mean, it did look like I mean, like that assassination,

[00:06:52] there's a bit too cleverly staged at all, it didn't seem like a real one, but, but, but come on back to your point. I think, I'm a fairer of it. Yeah, let me talk. I think it seems to me, somebody's akin to a school shoe

[00:07:04] to want to some, yeah. But it is, it is interesting that Biden has, I mean, the Habs work very hard to protect his legacy and why? It's so because he's been in politics. You know, when he actually look back at him, he's been in politics

[00:07:17] for, I mean, I was going to say hundreds of years, but he's been in politics, I mean, and witnessed and being part of some of the biggest events over the last 50 years. It's been remarkable politician, whether you like his politics or not,

[00:07:29] the fact is the man he has been there and has been there. No, that's an, and it's really fascinating to see how that has been. I remember, I've seen a documentary about when they were, one of the current Supreme Court Justice's Clarence Thomas

[00:07:42] was being appointed as a great drama about that. I think it was on HBO, and he was on the Senate hearing, where they were absolutely vile towards one of the staff of Clarence Thomas that he'd sexually abused. And he'd, I'm going to go name his apartment,

[00:07:59] but no, no, no. And Joe Biden's there, you know? And in the 80s he stood for President. He was standing for President in the 80s, which he was extraordinary. And then he's, I think he got in trouble. I remember this ride.

[00:08:12] For play of drives in a speech by Neil Kinneck would you believe? I don't know that. He, he made a speech. And Paul, he thought, we took it to, he made this speech that was a chunk of it. It looked like it played drives from Neil Kinneck.

[00:08:28] And that, that I think led partly or did led to him from withdrawing from the race to be a president. So he's only extraordinary career. But the one thing, therefore, I don't know if you've ever seen the video of him with your boy that was stood a stutterer.

[00:08:44] Yeah. It's better to turn, I think. And you know, that was extraordinary. And just the kindness in a man did go through that in that video that he genuinely a kind person, whatever, yeah, political history. So it's definitely some sadness.

[00:09:00] And I think what's interesting and we'll get onto camera, Harold's some minute and trunk. But again, the foresight to have brought Kamala Harrison to the frame because it is that thing of, and it was part of the last rhetoric, it wasn't it, it looked a bit embarrassing.

[00:09:15] And it was this because there is no doubt that America I think is uncomfortably sexist, racist, and the socialistic more than they want to admit in certain areas. And nobody is, of course. But I mean, you talk to Americans, Americans, in this sense, American press at the moment,

[00:09:33] and they're saying, all we that sexist races and how much and the socialistic. And the answer tends to be, yes, we really are. The reason for not voting for us, she's because they're, and that, of course, you know, you've got Nigel Farrow

[00:09:45] rocking up into the racism around, isn't it? Calling an American. And because, you know, people are people are exposing their prejudice now because, and they've got something to talk. And, you know, and they're terrified the Republicans are, because I think they've suddenly realized

[00:10:01] that what they thought was in their grasp. So they've been calling some of the, actually, I think some of the, not just the sort of roundwing don't write YouTubers and bloggers, but Republican parties, you know, representatives of torture about her being an ADI hire, you know, like, quality,

[00:10:21] nervous and inclusion hire. That's nothing but racism. Of course, that's nothing but saying, because what does it mean by, actually, the vice president, many, many vice presidents have gone on to be president. It's a route, obviously. So yeah, then it will be because that's for the

[00:10:38] call, they've been attacking them because she would not earn a child run their own and, you know, it's not just shocking as a child. But you know, and it's lucky that we're, we're still in children. And so he's, he's, he's, he's certainly, there's been 17 vice presidents, I believe,

[00:10:55] and only five of them have gone on to be president and only three of them were, well, I don't know, it's actually less. It's actually less of a, it's seen as the obvious room, but it actually doesn't sort of play out.

[00:11:06] It has done it, it has done particularly recently because it goes Biden did, Jade, George, Jade, W Bush did and somebody else did as well. But mostly the Vice President's don't. No, maybe that is, maybe that is, maybe it's more and more of a modern trend who knows.

[00:11:27] Because it's a very odd role it seems to me via the Vice President because it's sort of, it doesn't really, it's a more ceremonial almost than man. You're like the, you like the spirit on the roll of the time.

[00:11:39] I think you're there in case the President's gets shot. Yeah, but you think, yeah, so it is interesting. But it's certainly, I mean, somebody who cares a lot about politics it's been brilliant this last week to see, hasn't it? It's been, it's been, it's been, oh.

[00:11:57] Yeah, I mean this. Yeah, it just, it was just becoming, it was just becoming all for. And I think, strangely enough, the way it happens with being so close to the, the, the, the get a great convention, it meant there was no time.

[00:12:16] So it has become quite interesting. It's now, you know, it's suck the air out of the Republicans campaign because all the conversation is, it's just gonna be the, you know, who's gonna be the VP. I think it is gonna be a weird.

[00:12:26] Weirdly, I think it could be seen quite really good time in because there's enough time for a to build that profile without being, you know, and people weren't. I think it's really interesting and I think I mean, it really probably only happened in this time friend because of

[00:12:43] what happened in the debate with the debate was so awful to watch. Actually with close to the bit was awful to watch, but it was heartbreaking to watch somebody struggle like Binding was

[00:12:53] so there was some may. And yet it was an unusual to have a debate that soon, it was Binding's camp that said that's have an early debates because normally they don't have it to

[00:13:02] after the conventions I think. Well it was talk, there was talk that the Democrats had sort of pushed that as well because they wanted to test the gang of it as a were, which I thought was

[00:13:13] quite interesting and I can't really imagine Donald Trump wanting to have a debate with Kamala Harris chill. We've had a cross-group to, yeah. So we've had absolutely human struggle terribly with somebody with those skills. Yeah. Man, as you're the

[00:13:32] crossing group. Because it's well, you can't eat kind of onto a question. Now can you imagine there's a cross-group so what's she's going to be doing? I'm just as already going out on this sort of, I was a prosecutor. I know sex pests, I've seen

[00:13:42] racketeers. I've seen Ford's and I see Brad Donald Trump because I recognize his type. And it's a great thing isn't it? And it's really, and of course Donald Trump now is the old man.

[00:13:52] And that's quite something as well as not. It's a really, it's a really positive vibe. And I think what she's done and I know we talk a lot about our community but you talk about

[00:14:04] Trump as a threat. I mean there's a scenario apparently that in the papers that we have to look at America as being a hostile country. If a strike take over because of the import tariffs,

[00:14:16] the fact that they hold on nooks, the fact that we want to edit about them, we can't defend ourselves. We've got we've been a really difficult position. And so in the whole world, I mean we all know

[00:14:26] that seems to be the case that the people that really benefit most from these strong authoritarian right wingers are a bit like Trump and G. So you can only imagine because they're the only

[00:14:38] beneficiaries that they must be behind this. And so we have to the ability for U.S. and the UK to be able to roll back and be liberal would be great as long as they can deliver. Because the

[00:14:48] threat for the populists is the ability of saying, well, the trouble is that the liberal democracies don't deliver for everybody. They only deliver for the elite freedom, which is ironic because the populists are only interested in the elite freedom. Yeah I mean those are the sort of

[00:15:04] the type of life. Well you're right it's an existential threat to the world to have some of these people that were in charge right now. I mean you know when you talk about Putin we talk

[00:15:13] about, she really talked about Trump he talked about Urduan and some of these populists an hour of regard as fascistic in their nature, strong men leaders. It is a threat to the world

[00:15:30] and I was watching, I was really too busy to probably YouTube video about it. There was a diplomat on there that said the last few years since 2006 he put in a front so I started to get

[00:15:43] closer together because they realized that the two strongest military powers in Europe and actually you know we can't necessarily, if Trump were in real-ion America, in the end so it's bringing us closer to Europe because of that existential threat. Well I'd go back to

[00:16:01] it. But sort of in a sense on the LGBT curious, this has to be positive out of that because it scares me to death and it's not just Trump, it's their whole Republic of Comparty and how I'm really balanced. I mean he's just yeah. He's a terrible

[00:16:18] pick for Vice President, I don't think he's doing any good and he did describe Trump as being America's hit by exactly, which is extraordinary. What he is yeah, awful, and awful,

[00:16:34] views and you know so that it has to be on the back of a hopefully for me, certainly a positive general election result of the UK. We've got a bit of a top-end American as well that's

[00:16:49] but he didn't look at people who get to our community and what I could always, and I grew with you and he said earlier you know you look at American you see what's coming here. What they've

[00:16:56] done is they start with a real-villiant way and they've really attacked women. They've gone for women because Americans are much more misogynistic environments, especially in the middle of the American side of the community. And a lot and American women are very complicitness

[00:17:12] because actually they're very happy to be following the sort of Christian nationalism type of roots. But they have which he fully and willing the a lot of women signed away their rights.

[00:17:22] And so it's no surprise that gay rights and trans rights are just appearing and we should see this coming over the channel and we know that there's a lot of funding going into anti-abortion clinics

[00:17:33] where we know that legislation moving against gay people and of course we've seen the wedge issue which is our community for a while. So it's good to watch it whilst out in America because that could happen. But also the fight back has become in the more libertarian states

[00:17:48] who are now throwing out bits and pieces of anti-transwrenchment and welcoming trans people into their areas. So you know it is quite interesting how there's such a schism and how I mean the funny thing is when we look at radical feminists not being interested in trans people

[00:18:06] I mean we this should watch out because you know they're man they're coming for them. Well you know that part of the movement who called themselves feminists I don't believe a feminist was there exclusionary and seem to really talk about women's rights in any other

[00:18:24] context or rather than attacking our community. But yeah right I mean it's very difficult to make those sweepers statements because parts of America pass really aggressive build a California of recently passed the progressive to talk about young trans people. So you see

[00:18:40] sort of schism between certain states. So there's plenty of places where there's plenty of states where it's probably better and nice to be a trans person then than it is in the UK for instance

[00:18:50] and there certainly plenty of states where it definitely is until you know that really should travel there with with you worry I think so I think it's very different to understand the country

[00:19:04] that is so it's I mean in sense I guess America is a collection of states is not different in Europe and Europe has their differences and they've got a very strange I mean we'll talk about

[00:19:16] these different electoral systems don't we and I mean you know the Americans I mean I think it remember it was based on the French system it is quite old how they had these electoral

[00:19:25] colleges naturally what they're talking about is all of the states will just go the way to go and then the it and the balance is power is on in five or six states and that's it that

[00:19:38] determines whether and does and the popular version of matter I mean we know Clint Hillary Clinton and when the popular vote went short there were Republicans I haven't won the pop I think

[00:19:48] they've won it once or something to wear in the last you know few few few elections say but the community of the states and the voting colleges just quite peculiar yeah yeah I mean it can yeah absolutely is right and there is a movement there's a number of

[00:20:05] states that are trying to get together to say that they ought to be on the pop of the vote and just elected president on the pop of the vote but that's that's some way off getting any

[00:20:13] chance of being any change in their constitution and and the thing that I think is even more in a sense on democratic is the center to the second house which has the power to appoint people it's one state one vote so you know the state something

[00:20:32] Staffordshire has more people living in it than I think about I was some Americans some of the states are spotlighted yet they have for the same amount of power is caraphone you're all in New York you know yeah some of the it is a strange system well

[00:20:48] then again I was a straight it's a strange system oh yeah and talking about our stream system I tell you what I'm going sorry I was changed to subject are you Gary I'm going

[00:20:58] go now you can say no I'm telling you I don't know I tell you who I was going to tell you about it was in terms of our stream system I was listening to a very good podcast

[00:21:09] with Nick Clay the other day but what I did here was a brilliant into the area Harriet Harman oh yes and she is sat there and talked quite openly about radical feminism and how it seems odd that people aren't able to understand that trans people are part of

[00:21:32] that feminist mix and I thought it was interesting I'm trying to think we're a herd of it it's it's a really interesting interview to listen to because it really frames the argument about why

[00:21:45] radical feminism is you know so protective about the wood women and it's is so clear about where it's come from and all that sort of stuff and she talks about the fact that she needed

[00:21:56] to strong man for her to be able to get through into a place where she could bring forward feminist ideas and and if you I don't know if anyone was listening but well I guess we've been more positive

[00:22:07] those who are listening might want to have a look out for that interview. Well so I think it was the new sage and I think it was a lot Lewis good or a bit earlier it's very good.

[00:22:17] All right okay yeah that'd be a dress in school podcasts those and that is a really good podcast it's a good interview and she's sure you can if you google I read Harman podcast

[00:22:27] yeah it's a really good interview. So let's go to here I mean it is good to have it's good to have some it feels in this country to start to have some grown up politics

[00:22:36] and also some less scary politics if nothing else and if you're good to see the same over transit land. Please the ex-husband starts to act so transit landically it'd be good to see some positivity there as well so that is a hopeful.

[00:22:59] Yeah we've just been a change for it doesn't have gel I think we've helped being so doomed blade and well one of us has. Well yes indeed it's usually me that's pretty much

[00:23:11] which is what we need now is what we need now is a constant position from where's treating because in where's treating is now coming back and seeing he's always been positive about

[00:23:20] trans people and so that's interesting isn't it obviously you seem the right and where's he said that because he certainly isn't saying. He was he said it and I think he said it online on the paper

[00:23:29] is quite recently there was yeah but it was going what what is it done to expand doing? Is it that because they do this? J. K. Rollman says she's got nothing against

[00:23:41] trans people. It is just that then there's the boat but we don't see trans women as women don't see trans men as men so it's it that oh we don't want trans people to be treated badly

[00:23:53] well then but we don't really recognise the validity I'm going to say yeah whether it's trying to train tread that line a little bit because none of his utterances previously about you know emphasise your biological sex over gender is anything that I see that is

[00:24:11] but no I guess give him time maybe. I think I think what was it? It's got sort of an HSP first yes well I mean old old Rachel Reeves is quite going over about that idea

[00:24:30] yes so I think it is good to look positive you sure. The milky well the terrible insect connections I think it must be your end because my I'm pretty good at my and I've just on a speed test

[00:24:40] is it your I think you are you are a five-year-old you are a bad drop have a good drop in now till you're going to have to fix this in the edit. No not I was

[00:24:51] going to read Norris because well he used to listen to he's talking like a darling so that's okay but let's tell you what let's do let's draw the video this week and let's say it's

[00:25:01] we're ending to there on us on a hopeful place where just you know it just could be then remember the fourth could be one of the best days of our lives along with July the fourth. Indeed

[00:25:15] May the fourth be with us. Oh oh not not not that was awful that was just awful that's seen next week it was awful and and on that and on that basis I'd pull into the world and now

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